Releasing Panic Attacks w/ John Graham

Releasing Panic Attacks w/ John Graham

May 22, 2024

Our guest today is 3x Memory Champion John Graham. He’s competed and won in memory competitions all over the world. However, he has struggled with panic attacks and anxiety that almost cost him his title. In this episode we’ll hear John’s story of how he overcame his panic attacks and how he helps other high performers do the same.

Episode Transcript:

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Mark I’m happy to be be here

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thanks yeah it’s not something you encounter every day and people assume I have like a photographic memory or I’m a

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genius or something and further from the truth right so I read a book about 10 years ago that Chronicles memory

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athletes and these people Ordinary People Who learn mental techniques through visualization imagination sort

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of unlocking the right side of their brain because a lot of people associate memory with logic and structure and

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boring you know just reading over and over so we utilize the right side um and

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just learn how to memorize massive amounts of information we’re learning like when a memory Champion competes you

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know the US memory Championship we have different events like memorizing decks of cards memorizing lists of numbers

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memorizing names and faces like that um and then the reigning you know the

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person who survives all the tests as the

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champion I think you know usually like 60 60 to 100 people compete each year

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depending on the year um but then it qualifies into the top 12 the top 12 get

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to go to the the finals the championship and go through elimination style until

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one person is standing

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100% so just to give you an idea it you know in the US it’s not as popular we’re

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into big and you know Sports and you know all this Grand stuff but in China

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for example I just got back from China a couple months ago and was on their Super Brain show

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which is an American most people hav heard of it but it’s the most popular game show in the world 400 million

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people watch this show three times the am of the Super Bowl I was on that show

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I was on the finale I went up against the best in China former Guinness World Record holder competing in an event so

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yeah it’s pretty it’s pretty massive in

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China mhm yeah they love that I mean it it very incentivized in China to to

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accelerate your mind to get to the next level because the school system is very competitive over there whereas here it’s not as much so a lot of kids a lot of

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parents are pushing people into taking themselves to that next level which is really

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cool I was working a a boring cubical job in Denver

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and I came across a book like again I wasn’t a very good employee I’m like Googling stuff and I came across this

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article about this book called Moon walking with Einstein the Art and Science remembering everything and that

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book just grabbed my soul I went to Barnes & Noble I bought the book and I just I learned like everything about

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memory in the mind was shattered like every belief I had about oh if you get older your memory is worse or if you

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believe you have a good memory you know you will and you won’t like all these myths were shattered inside of me and I

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learned how to actually utilize the brain to remember things which by that time I was 27 years old I had already

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graduated school right so I didn’t get to use these techniques with school and all of practical applications but I was

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so fascinated by the capabilities of the mind that I just I started learning as

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anyone would memorizing a deck of cards that was literally the first thing I started learning how to do it took me

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about six days to learn the structure of the system and then I sat down and memorized 52 cards in order in about 6

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minutes and at that point I was kind of like there’s something to this I really want to be good at

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this yeah I was on a show called superhuman Mike Tyson was the the host

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and I so I’m flying out to LA for that show and I get in this bus and everyone UNS is on the show for like someone is

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like has these muscle abilities someone has like audio audible abilities someone’s like Sherlock Holmes and we

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all are talking and yeah we’re like the X-Men on this but we’re all ordinary people who learned you know to

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accelerate in our in our area so

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yeah yeah the bread and butter technique for memory athletes is the Memory Palace

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and you probably heard of it Memory Palace or method of loai or Roman room Journey method it’s all basically the

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same thing it’s utilizing a place you know well so imagine your house if you’re not at your house you can sort of

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either close your eyes or mentally in your mind’s eye imagine oh there’s my door and I walk in my front door and

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then there’s the couch there’s the TV you can sort of see the layout mentally right so you use that structure to place

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things in order so the cards obviously have an order a grocery list has a list

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maybe an order um a list of words has an order so you can turn the information into an

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image Place those images along a path in the house so that the way you remember

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it in order is you go back to the front door and you see the image at the front door then you see the image in the couch and you walk further you see the image

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of the TV you’re converting that image back into the information so that’s

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that’s the bread and butter technique

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yes yeah we remember Stories We Remember

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places so it’s utilizing like the the saying in the first place comes from the Memory Palace in

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the first place the door is the first place so in the first place in the second place it’s literally memory

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technique in that language

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I’ve got hundreds I’ve got hundreds yeah yeah yeah so every place I’ve ever been

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to you know every relative friend family member I use those as different locations um I have 20 locations in

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every Memory Palace just to keep it structured and organized yeah if I’m using if I’m a memory competition I will

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pre-o a list of good memory palaces to use for those events for cards for numbers for for any event that

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I need

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them nobody knows about it but it would be really cool if the school system taught this right

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to highly practical if utilize in the right way yeah I mean cards and numbers aren’t really that practical but you can

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see the application for for school for learning how this could really transcend us into the another level of of you know

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schooling and

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Academia yep that’s the thing is kids are

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naturally creative and imaginative and these techniques so I’m 3 seven and I am

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probably as creative and as imaginative as a seven-year-old because I’ve developed and it’s not really developed and added

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that ability I’ve just had to peel back layers of conditioning you know because as adults we’re taught like stop

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daydreaming stop imagining it’s not productive you know be logical be in your mind and but it we sort of DEC

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decondition kids to utilize the strength and Imagination is a superpower for

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memory so yeah me we need to bring back the right brain and and that balance that Harmony of the mind because

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cramming and wrote obviously works to some extent but it’s highly exhausting

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and you forget it very quickly

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yeah the reason I’m able to teach it now is because I was able to overcome it full right and so the left brain I was a

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type of person who wanted to hack my mind and optimize my mind and utilize

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all these hacks and little little techniques to just optimize thinking and flow and all of that but ultimately that

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conditioned me to have a lot of anxiety right to really amplify um the control

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conditioning of my mind right so over time as I’m even as I’m growing my

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business I’m I’m hiring the top mindset coaches in the world I’m thinking the mind is the answer to

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everything which it took me really far but it started become a problem so I was

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I was waking up in dread every morning like a heaviness in my body I would have heart palpitations I would wake up

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trying to train like 20 2019 I was training for the world memory championships waking up excited to

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compete because I I was like top 10 in the world at that point I could have really you know done some

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damage but I couldn’t I couldn’t train because I had severe brain fog so as I

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got better and better and more logical and More in my more in my mind the anxiety and the Panic actually

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Amplified and so I tried all the techniques right I started thinking oh

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I’m having a brain fog I need a supplement I must be deficient in something I I need to go for a walk clear my mind and none of those things

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worked you know the meditations didn’t work the the therapies the reframes the all of the things through the Mind fell

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short not that they weren’t helpful to some extent but they didn’t get to the root of the problem and so I was like at

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one point I just what is really going on here because clearly the more the harder

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I try at this the worse it gets so I had to change and in that change I was able

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to realize the real root of panic anxiety even depression is it’s an

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emotional root issue it’s a suppressed emotional root issue and so all the all

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of the methods these days to go through the mind fall short they’re more of a managing or a

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coping type of strategy whereas I didn’t want anything like that I was like I don’t want to feel this way ever like I

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don’t want to manage it I don’t want to take a pill I don’t want to have to listen to meditation every day or anything like that I wanted to go to the

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root and get rid of this for good and then that Journey that’s so I started practicing some some new things

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emotional releases and within two months like so 20 years of anxiety

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doing the wrong things and then two months of emotional releases and I didn’t have any more

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panic and I didn’t have any more anxiety so now I want to share that with the world I want to shout from the rooftops because I’m like it’s like if

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you discovered the cure to cancer you would be like shouting from the rooftops like hey I listen you know what I mean

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and that’s kind of where I’m at now I like I found something so profound that I want to share that with

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the world because it transformed my life too

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one of the biggest yeah happy to share one of the biggest epiphanies from me so

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at the end of 2022 so this is all very

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recent my grandfather committed suicide and obviously you know like he didn’t

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tell anyone no not we had completely blindsided 100% And it devastated us and you know

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the typical one of the typical responses to something like that is Extreme sadness right grief well my response was

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rage and you know it just it is what it is like I was so angry at the time of

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what he left behind you know I saw the family devastated I saw the repercussions I I know I felt anger for

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me because I had so at the time I had so much judgment for someone with suicide I

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was like how could someone do that with their own life I valued my life so much that I had so much attachment and

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judgment that rage anger extreme was coming up for me so I went through two

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months of just anger at the world and at him and finally one night I hit my head on the pillow and I

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decided to have a conversation with my grandpa and I said grandpa I don’t agree with what you did

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I don’t think I ever will but I love you and I meant it a

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th% and in that moment Mark the an elephant of Rage lifted off

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my shoulders it was the most profound moment of my life I didn’t know what happened it was the energy completely

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changed and I said I actually tried I tried to get angry like I tried to bring

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it back to see what happened and I couldn’t there was nothing I could do

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could bring back the sizzle from that moment on to this day I have not had one ounce of anger at him it was profound

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that was the that was the first release Mega release that showed me there’s something

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here right so for most of most of the stuff I was holding on to was anger and believe it or not anger sadness can be

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underneath anxiety and panic just because you have anxiety and panic doesn’t mean you’re just in fear there’s

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there could be massive amounts of other emotions under that

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yeah yeah it’s powerful to to not only lean in and jump on the back of the emotion like to allow it in but but yeah

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the the big part the big Epiphany for me and what I teach people is also not just

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feeling that emotion fully because it has to there’s no way around it otherwise you’re going to bury it but

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also recognizing where the attachment is because the attachment is like think of like a balloon right the attachment is a

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string that holds a balloon inside of you the balloon is out a motion once we cut that attachment we can allow it to

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to move upward and outward so that was a big realization for me

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yeah men it’s not and men have been very much desensitized to themselves and it’s

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unfortunate but we need to bring this back into the world for men especially yeah

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yeah

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yeah so to distinguish the left side is more of the masculine side the more of the structure and control the the right

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side is more the feminine side right the flow the creativity the intuition the imagination and you need both whether

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you’re a man or a woman listening to this masculine feminine doesn’t mean man woman it means the harmony of energies

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and so if someone has anxiety and panic they’re highly highly left brained they’re highly highly masculine and

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there’s a lot of control there so with memory or releasing Panic you have to bring in harmony you have to bring in

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the right side which is intuition which is heart which is creativity and flow and the way you do that is with

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surrender surrender doesn’t mean giving up surrender means allowing whatever is

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happening to happen inside of you so like as men we’re taught one of the examples that I teach people that’s

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counterintuitive is blocking distractions we’re taught to block out

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distractions internal and external to get stuff done that conditions you for

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control for anxiety so I do the exact opposite meaning I allow all

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distractions in internal distractions heart bracing mind wandering thoughts

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anxieties if I have whatever I have I allow it in and be present with that and

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that takes that’s a skill that you have to learn to bring in balance and it’s hard because what we’re trained and

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conditioned to do is push away anything uncomfortable any uncomfortable feeling or thought or emotion we we tend to

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resist very highly in that resistance we’re creating a lot of force and a lot of energy drain it’s

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actually very exhausting to push thoughts away to push internal feelings and suppress them away so you have to

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make that flip and allow that in and when you allow stuff in not not only are you releasing emotion and in your body

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but with the memory you’re allowing thoughts to download in you’re allowing creativity to come in you’re allowing

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your imagination to play so it’s a very beneficial thing for for anyone in any

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field or any lifestyle right because you’re allowing things in instead of always using your brain to force

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yourself to come up with ideas or force yourself to get things done or force yourself to block things out

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sure well in fact it’s the opposite if we push away the feeling we tend to cope

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you know with we work too much or we have to listen to shows or we eat too much or drink alcohol those are all

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coping mechanisms to mute that energy to calm that edge right we drink to put off

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the edge well what is the edge The Edge is the stuff coming up to the surface so in fact by pushing it away and

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continuing what we’re doing it will last forever and it will keep getting louder and it will never end like for me it got

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to the point where panic attacks are very very loud very very very scary cuz I kept pushing it away but if you lean

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in and allow it to happen of course there is a Letting Go meaning you don’t know how long it’ll last but it’s the

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only way like here’s what I tell people we have massive amounts of suppressed emotions inside of us every single

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moment of your life that you didn’t handle fully process fully that was

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uncomfortable it’s still inside of you right now and so we want that stuff out

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and integrated the only way to let that stuff out is to fully feel and process that

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out well luckily your subconscious mind doesn’t give you everything at once doesn’t open Pandora’s Box it gradually

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gives you things that you can handle unless you’re resisting it where it gets louder and louder right so we have to

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and just start with something simple for those in fear of that start with something simple like the first time you’re frustrated go sit with it no

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mental effort just sit with it and see how long it last and I guarantee you if you as you learn this muscle of letting

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go of your attachment of not resisting it it’ll go away much quicker it will release much quicker but it’s all the

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resistance that’s holding this stuff in making it feel like it’s never going to

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end yeah yeah but if you’re start with a low hanging fruit to learn that illusion

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because you won’t know until you try it but I we’ve all processed emotions it’s just there are some big ones that we’ve

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resisted so for anyone listening anytime you feel a negative

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emotion not just anxiety or Panic or whatever sit with it be with it watch it

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pass feel it pass like don’t even watch it don’t be in your mind just feel that

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stuff and you get better and better at that it will release and it will release for good e

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very much and here’s the analogy give like which guys will love imagine going to

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the gym like you talk about trust how do I know this is going to work like you’re thinking John I don’t trust this yet I

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say and I get asked this all the time how do I know it or at lease how do I know this will work and I say well how do you know going to the gym is going to

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work so first off you see people who’ve gone there and it works right but for you let’s say you go your first day and

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you go home you like did it work you look in the mirror and you’re just redac and exhausted you don’t notice any muscle

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definition the when you start building trust is like 3 weeks in when you start realizing it works that’s when the trust

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hits so it’s the same thing with emotions is you’re going to be doing this if this is new to you you’re going

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to be doing this for a couple weeks before you notice any maybe unless you have an elephant moment like I did where

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I mention you know with my grandpa you’re not going to know it’s going to work until you devote yourself now you

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can trust it because you will viscerally feel a change a lightness a groundedness in you that you haven’t felt before

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yes yeah 100% if you do about yourself I mean it is possible to completely

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overcome anxiety depression Panic for good forever if you know what you’re

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doing and allow your yourself to feel these things

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yeah it’s very possible to have that experience especially if you’ve had so much tension and control that’s actually

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a good thing um I’ve never had like something that strong I’ve had some twitches and some movements and some

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really big releases but what that’s doing is your body knows what to do how

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to heal from this and so letting go is part of it is not just surrendering control of your mind but surrendering

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control of your body in those moments like meaning you fully relax and allow that stuff to happen so your body has an

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intelligence your body knows how to beat your heart your body knows how to breathe your body knows how to pump and all of these things but we get in the

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way the human gets in the way so it’s the same thing with anxiety our mind gets in the way of everything this

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Divine intelligence that circulates through our body that can heal it when you remove yourself your mind you can

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have these visceral twitches and and energy moments like I’ve had but that’s

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a good thing if you understand what’s happening is your body’s healing that’s a good thing it’s letting it

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out m

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yeah it’s it’s it’s its way the nature the nature of ourselves is to do that and

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so I really want to underline this this point that all of us want to heal but if

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we’re trying to do it through force of the mind or even our body like we’re being taught like working out is good

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for the mind like I’m it is but it’s not going to cure your it’s not going to heal your anxiety it’s not going to heal

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the emotion the only way and this is really simple to heal any of these emotional root issues like anxiety Panic

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depression is to feel the emotion that’s it that’s it it’s that simple but that difficult right but the body if if our

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mind gets out of the way we step out of the way the human and our body steps out of the way we surrender control in those

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moments the intelligence inside of you the god Force life force Universe

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whatever you want to call it will work through you and heal you yeah

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yeah once you get out of the way of your mind and you tap more into your heart

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like you know we are right now really powerful things come through so yes this awoken me very powerfully spiritually

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because I believe emotions are the gateway to the spiritual realm right the mind is what really gets in the way our

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addiction to our mind our mind can be good I’m not trying to demonize the mind at all but it sees things in a lens of

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Duality but when we see things through our heart when we heal all of these things and step back from the ego of the

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mind we can actually see things in a completely different realm right so

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spiritually our heart awakens we can feel things intuitively that we didn’t

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feel before right we see things from a a Divine perspective this is what I teach people a lot is and this is nothing new

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by the way right because we’ve been taught unconditional love but we haven’t practiced it so a Divine perspective is

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a lot of our suffering is caused by judgment so if I judge you mark for

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something you said or did or how you are or I judge a part of myself right that it causes pain and suffering because

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again we’re seeing through the mind but when we see things to the heart and we heal our judgments like I healed my

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judgment of my grandfather I can crack open my heart and my mind to Greater perspectives

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because I am just one perspective viewing the world

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so the what I really want to do is open up more perspectives the way I do that

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is through healing judgment through forgiveness sitting in other people’s shoes like literally imagining I am Mark

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in his shoes in Colorado like in his lifestyle his you know has his

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background his childhood everything if I can sit in that and see you and feel who you are not from a judgment from a

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curiosity I can crack open my mind and my heart and healing occurs too

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interesting yeah I’m still learning that and getting intuitive hits on that from me um you know I believe I did I did

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come here to go through the trials I went through like my perspective now is every single person chose what they

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chose for this life like pre- chose some of the big things not every single moment right we have free will and free

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choice but so when I’m having panic and anxiety instead of asking why me God

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right which never gets you anywhere spirals if you ask why did I choose

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this right and you might not like the answer at first but why did I choose panic attacks I chose panic attacks

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because the only way to learn the only way to learn love and peace or let’s talk peace the only way to feel

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peace is to experience chaos Panic the only way to feel love is to go through

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betrayal so if you’re sent to Earth if you live on earth and you want to learn how to forgive and be patient you’re

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going to be given impatience you’re going to be giv people around you who who are completely rude and patient

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right you’re going to be given betrayals but that’s a gift because without without that and transmuting

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that and our Judgment of that we can’t experience the higher States so anyone

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listening like why did I choose this is a very powerful question so that’s the way that’s a perspective I have on my

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life is like why did I choose extreme panic and anxiety because it it was a

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extreme blessing for me because I see the world and experience it in a completely different way

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thank you yeah everyone listening has wounds and has their story to become a hero so yeah welcome to the club

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everybody

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yeah so very clearly this is not therapy this is not techniques through the mind this is not anything like that this is a

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complete process to go to the root the emotional aspect the suppressed emotions that are causing us so for me I I teach

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in this program I guide people through because everyone has the ability to do this on their own you don’t need a priest or a therapist or you know to do

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this eventually right so I have three steps that I guide people through to release

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these suppressed emotions number one is you have to have a fully regulated nervous system if you’re in anxiety Panic

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depression your nervous system is not regulated right it’s and sympathetic it means they give like a light switch it’s

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always switched on it’s always tense you’re always doing you’re always thinking you’re always ruminating you’re

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not relaxing and that that’s what really holds these suppressed emotions in is tension like

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physical tension holding it in our nervous system so we have to learn how

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to regulate and I walk people through a very simple process to fully regulate your nervous system where it’s relaxed

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and your processing these things throughout the day not just in a 30 minute meditation or a 30 minute session

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right I want you 247 to condition yourself to stay relaxed so that’s

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that’s number one must number two is I teach unhook which is how do we unhook from negative

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emotions the moment they’re happening not later today not when I have time but

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how do you fully allow and feel that emotion so it can release and release for good process out so that we’re not

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continually stacking the static and the you know the emotions inside of us and just causing more disharmony that’s

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number one thing that that therapy falls short on too is we go have a cathartic release or we dig in therapy for 30

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minutes but then we go back to to our lives and we’re back in our conditioning of avoiding the uncomfortable we got to

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lean into that as you can hear me say like the only way out is through you’re going to be feeling some nasty stuff but

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that’s the only Liberation and then the third part you heard me talk in the first section about my grandfather that huge cathartic

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release of energy of Rage how do we do that because we all have Boulders inside

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of us so I teach a third aspect which is catalyst integration taking a catalyst a

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big event in her life and integrating that energy inside of us to release it

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for good because not only are we releasing this dense suppressed energy inside of us but that energy that’s the

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juice you want to expand in your life you’re not going to overcome limiting beliefs solely through the Mind think of

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these suppressed emotions as suppressed potential every time you integrate those

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huge packets of dense energy those Shadow parts of you those uncomfortable memories of the past you release them

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fully integrate them into your being and you expand you naturally expand you naturally see clearer you make better

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decisions intuitively you balance the the mind and so I guide people through that three-step process and and within

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weeks months people overcome anxiety chronic anxiety Eternal anxiety and

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panic for good

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yeah we’re so conditioned to use our mind to get to the next level in life can work hard but to be completely

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honest like the mind gets in the way it’s very draining to live in your head and Brute Force things and in force

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outcomes and get stuff done all the time when you actually let go and tap into

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this energy you not only expand but you get you’re magnetic your heart opens because you’re

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electromagnetic being your mind is electrical your heart is magnetic so when you optimize both and get rid of

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all these blockages inside of you your heart can open up and you’re an electromagnetic being you start

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attracting things in you start working easier you flow easier because ideas just download in every day right it’s

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just so much more efficient and optimal than instead of using the human mind to get everything

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[Music] done yeah the mind is an ego

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construct right it’s the first seven years of your life especially you’re like a sponge you’re in a feta brain

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wave when you’re a toddler and you absorb what your parents say what society says the priests the teachers

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and it’s not that it’s a bad thing but it forms the construct of your being meaning your beliefs on everything how

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you view the world well it’s a flawed structure and it it’s the voice in your

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head basically so if we can step back from the Mind realizing it’s it’s an ego

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it’s a construct it’s not good or bad but we if when we stop listening to it

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all the time and being so addicted to it all the time right and we release more of the

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stuff like we’re guided we’re we get intui of hits and downloads and we feel our way through life instead of always

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living in that spiral of the Mind Right which can be very addicting and intoxicating but it gets in the way

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yeah and not to judge that because I went through that too when my first daughter was born so everyone talks

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about when your daughter’s born or your your child’s born there’s so much joy and your heart so full and it’s so exciting I didn’t experience that cuz I

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was so living so far in my head and my heart was so blocked that I logically I

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was excited this is cool but I didn’t feel that melting of the heart until I released all this stuff and then you can

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actually feel This Joy overflowing you from your heart you can actually feel it and not

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just think about it so it’s profound change because we all have this force of

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energy moving through us at all times but it’s blocked for most of us meaning the suppressed emotions like clogging

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the pipe when we start releasing this stuff the energy can flow through us

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and we feel it we feel our heart expand we become electromagnetic so much more efficient

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so the old way is adding things habits mind hacks stacking books you know like

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adding to your life to get success no the process is actually the exact opposite the process to your highest

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Destiny and fulfillment potential is to remove not just the ego construct but to

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release all the suppressed emotions that are blocking you from feeling that energy that’s guiding

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you yeah I typically work with conscious entrepreneurs and leaders people who are trying to achieve more in life and and

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what happens is these people are good people and they’ve succeeded in a lot of areas of

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life already but now they’re up against something internal that they can’t figure out there’s a resistance there

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they feel like there’s a block they wait they’re starting to wake up and feel like this is taking a lot of energy like

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and they’re hiding it from people that they care about because they’re ashamed of it like they’re they’re a high

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achiever and here I am like stuck and not achieving and something internally feels wrong like feels like fear and

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anxiety or dread where I’m not looking forward to the day and that’s scary right so if you’re running into that

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level of pressure high pressure or resistance it’s an emotional roote issue

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and all the mindset work limiting belief work you’re doing motivation Tony Robbins type of stuff is falling short

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because it’s a deeper issue and I ran into the same thing right so your greatest potential in your next level

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now is not through your mind but it’s through a deeper release of the suppressed emotions

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y 100% And you know a lot of us avoid this stuff because it’s painful or like we don’t want to talk about it but

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that’s your that’s your next level of growth like seriously all the stuff you’re holding within um because

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we we like to feel good we like to avoid the things that don’t make us feel good and that actually falls short too I’m

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not saying you should feel crappy all day but the things that are feeling like they’re bothering you the things that

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are not feeling as expansive a lot of people push them away because nowadays they hear about manifestation and

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they’re like oh I’m going to manifest something horrible in my life so they avoid it in fact those suppressed

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energies are actually attracting the experiences in your life that are poking you right so until you lean in and learn

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how to integrate those experiences you’re going to keep attracting the stuff you don’t want so the way you

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manifest like and I hate this word manifestation right because it’s it’s an ego thing to some extent like you can

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also manifest from a Divine will but if you’re wanting the car and the house and the stuff and you keep running into

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roadblocks right pay attention to what you’re running into because the way that you transcend and expand upward is not

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by looking up and jumping up it’s by looking down at all this nastiness that’s still inside and moving through

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that right so there’s the whole you know Tony Robbins or Joe despenza which I love both of these guys but they’re

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forcing through the Mind through coercion through Force to pump yourself

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up to a state to a high no it’s nothing different than seeking a high in a drug or an

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experience there’s nothing wrong with that no judgment but it’s only it’s going to snap you back down to your

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level the only way to expand beyond your level is not through your mind and pumping yourself up is to go within the

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dark aspects of you that are surfacing and the things that bother you the people you judge the resentments the

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angers that’s your next

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level natur

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yes yeah yep so hot air balloon analogy

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people can’t light the fire of the hot air balloon without cutting the the stuff that’s holding it down the same

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thing so pumping yourself up activating your Kundalini pumping your energy will

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come Crashing Down you have to release the dense energies that are holding you

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back yeah so I give a free guide for anyone interested like how to release anxiety for good forever and I walk

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through that complete flip of emotional release and that guide is at release panic.com

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free so it’s a free video 12 minutes you can watch it join my email list but the

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program is at release panic.com if you’re

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interested yeah absolutely appreciate you digging deep

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and having the real talk that people need to hear these days the Consciousness is expanding and people

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need to hear this new information this knowledge because we need to go deeper than what we have before to

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expand